Definitely not worth it. All these machines withstand one, maximum two hits from a grenade launcher. Killing a player who more or less has at least some skill is unlikely. Another trinket from Rockstar games. To remove a player on such a machine is to spit.
You won’t believe it, but I know about it. Most bans have no reason. Hence the second question: why are moderators not obliged to indicate the reason for the ban?
Send me in a personal link to specific persons in the bath.
It would not hurt to fix the PC version of the game yet, at least remove the 30 fps block. And because of this, I stopped going, and also because I deleted the save by accident.
The 30 fps block is removed simply, on the Internet is full of instructions. When I last put the game, there was no block, but maybe it's because of my settings.
You talked about "military needs," and state. institutions and military needs are not the same thing.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Very good, he also enjoys demand there. Let me remind you once again that processors are required that have an increased level of security and protection against computer viruses, while possessing such power that allows you to perform the necessary tasks. At the same time, computers and servers offered by the MCST company are able to function in adverse environmental conditions.
About the prices. Something is not enough information, but I saw the figure of $ 8000 for a PC with Elbrus-4C. And another 199 thousand rubles. Even if we discard the low performance, 199 thousand for a PC with a percentage of the Intel atom level is too much.
These processors can compete only because they are manufactured and developed in Russia. This is the only virtue, and for some it is rather dubious.
Elbrus will be inferior to competitors in x86 and everyday tasks, this is a fact.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Alright, it's time to end our argument, anyway, none of us will convince each other of our point ...
You're right. Those who believe that 800 MHz and 4 cores are power can no longer be convinced.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Then yes, you're right
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.
About the prices. Something is not enough information, but I saw the figure of $ 8000 for a PC with Elbrus-4C. And another 199 thousand rubles. Even if we discard the low performance, 199 thousand for a PC with a percentage of the Intel atom level is too much.
These processors can compete only because they are manufactured and developed in Russia. This is the only virtue, and for some it is rather dubious.
Elbrus will be inferior to competitors in x86 and everyday tasks, this is a fact.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Alright, it's time to end our argument, anyway, none of us will convince each other of our point ...
You're right. Those who believe that 800 MHz and 4 cores are power can no longer be convinced.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Then yes, you're right
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.
About the prices. Something is not enough information, but I saw the figure of $ 8000 for a PC with Elbrus-4C. And another 199 thousand rubles. Even if we discard the low performance, 199 thousand for a PC with a percentage of the Intel atom level is too much.
These processors can compete only because they are manufactured and developed in Russia. This is the only virtue, and for some it is rather dubious.
Elbrus will be inferior to competitors in x86 and everyday tasks, this is a fact.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Alright, it's time to end our argument, anyway, none of us will convince each other of our point ...
You're right. Those who believe that 800 MHz and 4 cores are power can no longer be convinced.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Then yes, you're right
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.
About the prices. Something is not enough information, but I saw the figure of $ 8000 for a PC with Elbrus-4C. And another 199 thousand rubles. Even if we discard the low performance, 199 thousand for a PC with a percentage of the Intel atom level is too much.
These processors can compete only because they are manufactured and developed in Russia. This is the only virtue, and for some it is rather dubious.
Elbrus will be inferior to competitors in x86 and everyday tasks, this is a fact.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Alright, it's time to end our argument, anyway, none of us will convince each other of our point ...
You're right. Those who believe that 800 MHz and 4 cores are power can no longer be convinced.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Then yes, you're right
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.
"The modern Intel Core i7-7700K processor is inferior in 2005 console performance" would be a great title too
But do not forget that the 7700K showed 240 Gflops in x86 and these are real numbers. 7700K is much more powerful than the processor of the 360th console, anyone who knows at least a little hardware can say this.
So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.
Again, I say, there are no 8C tests, but there are 4C tests and they show such a performance. And the talk in this news is about 4C. And 250 gflops in 8C is only on paper, the actual performance will differ, so for all manufacturers - both Intel and AMD. It is better to keep silent about the performance of Elbrus in x86, as the number of ticks will decrease and the flops will also decrease.
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.
8C tests in real-world tasks are either not available or not enough, and it makes no sense to compare the number by flops.
Well, it’s worth mentioning the price, as it’s just the wildest.
"The modern Intel Core i7-7700K processor is inferior in 2005 console performance" would be a great title too
But do not forget that the 7700K showed 240 Gflops in x86 and these are real numbers. 7700K is much more powerful than the processor of the 360th console, anyone who knows at least a little hardware can say this.
So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.
Again, I say, there are no 8C tests, but there are 4C tests and they show such a performance. And the talk in this news is about 4C. And 250 gflops in 8C is only on paper, the actual performance will differ, so for all manufacturers - both Intel and AMD. It is better to keep silent about the performance of Elbrus in x86, as the number of ticks will decrease and the flops will also decrease.
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.
8C tests in real-world tasks are either not available or not enough, and it makes no sense to compare the number by flops.
Well, it’s worth mentioning the price, as it’s just the wildest.
"The modern Intel Core i7-7700K processor is inferior in 2005 console performance" would be a great title too
But do not forget that the 7700K showed 240 Gflops in x86 and these are real numbers. 7700K is much more powerful than the processor of the 360th console, anyone who knows at least a little hardware can say this.
So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.
Again, I say, there are no 8C tests, but there are 4C tests and they show such a performance. And the talk in this news is about 4C. And 250 gflops in 8C is only on paper, the actual performance will differ, so for all manufacturers - both Intel and AMD. It is better to keep silent about the performance of Elbrus in x86, as the number of ticks will decrease and the flops will also decrease.
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.
8C tests in real-world tasks are either not available or not enough, and it makes no sense to compare the number by flops.
Well, it’s worth mentioning the price, as it’s just the wildest.
"The modern Intel Core i7-7700K processor is inferior in 2005 console performance" would be a great title too
But do not forget that the 7700K showed 240 Gflops in x86 and these are real numbers. 7700K is much more powerful than the processor of the 360th console, anyone who knows at least a little hardware can say this.
So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.
Again, I say, there are no 8C tests, but there are 4C tests and they show such a performance. And the talk in this news is about 4C. And 250 gflops in 8C is only on paper, the actual performance will differ, so for all manufacturers - both Intel and AMD. It is better to keep silent about the performance of Elbrus in x86, as the number of ticks will decrease and the flops will also decrease.
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.
8C tests in real-world tasks are either not available or not enough, and it makes no sense to compare the number by flops.
Well, it’s worth mentioning the price, as it’s just the wildest.
Then come on and compare with new ones. Productivity (peak) of "Elbrus 8C" - 250 Gflops.
Until some results of testing the new processor and comparisons with competitors appear - it makes no sense to talk about it, we need real tests, not just numbers. Xbox 360 issues 260 Gflops. Video card Titan Z 8 teraflops. All predecessors were at the level of ancient procs, this one, most likely, will not make a strong leap forward.
In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power.
When did 4 cores and 800 MHz become “power” and “high performance”? I've seen reviewwhere this Elbrus showed Intel Atom D2500 level performance. Not the most powerful processor, if that. And these are test results in benchmarks, and not just a figure taken from the ceiling. Imagine how AutoCAD or another professional application will be launched on it, and what kind of slide show there will be. As for me, working people are not in vain using multiprocessor and multicore solutions in their workstations that operate at a frequency of at least 2+ GHz. 4 cores on a ridiculous 800 MHz and a flawed manufacturing process, in principle, will not be able to overtake them.
Comparison with the ancient i7, which is already 8 years old, is not entirely correct. Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K gives outalmost 240 gflops.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus"
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?
Quote: FarmerKarwer
In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand?
I can’t imagine an entrepreneur who will say: “I don’t want to deliver a powerful PC to my employees, but I want Elbrus.”
Quote: FarmerKarwer
worse than Intela in everything and much
That is true, it is foolish to deny it. The only plus is production and development in Russia, which does not play a role for the average buyer.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Where do you get this info?
I'm talking about 4C, not about 8C.
Something all your statements smack of "patriotism."
In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power.
When did 4 cores and 800 MHz become “power” and “high performance”? I've seen reviewwhere this Elbrus showed Intel Atom D2500 level performance. Not the most powerful processor, if that. And these are test results in benchmarks, and not just a figure taken from the ceiling. Imagine how AutoCAD or another professional application will be launched on it, and what kind of slide show there will be. As for me, working people are not in vain using multiprocessor and multicore solutions in their workstations that operate at a frequency of at least 2+ GHz. 4 cores on a ridiculous 800 MHz and a flawed manufacturing process, in principle, will not be able to overtake them.
Comparison with the ancient i7, which is already 8 years old, is not entirely correct. Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K gives outalmost 240 gflops.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus"
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?
Quote: FarmerKarwer
In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand?
I can’t imagine an entrepreneur who will say: “I don’t want to deliver a powerful PC to my employees, but I want Elbrus.”
Quote: FarmerKarwer
worse than Intela in everything and much
That is true, it is foolish to deny it. The only plus is production and development in Russia, which does not play a role for the average buyer.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Where do you get this info?
I'm talking about 4C, not about 8C.
Something all your statements smack of "patriotism."
In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power.
When did 4 cores and 800 MHz become “power” and “high performance”? I've seen reviewwhere this Elbrus showed Intel Atom D2500 level performance. Not the most powerful processor, if that. And these are test results in benchmarks, and not just a figure taken from the ceiling. Imagine how AutoCAD or another professional application will be launched on it, and what kind of slide show there will be. As for me, working people are not in vain using multiprocessor and multicore solutions in their workstations that operate at a frequency of at least 2+ GHz. 4 cores on a ridiculous 800 MHz and a flawed manufacturing process, in principle, will not be able to overtake them.
Comparison with the ancient i7, which is already 8 years old, is not entirely correct. Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K gives outalmost 240 gflops.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus"
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?
Quote: FarmerKarwer
In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand?
I can’t imagine an entrepreneur who will say: “I don’t want to deliver a powerful PC to my employees, but I want Elbrus.”
Quote: FarmerKarwer
worse than Intela in everything and much
That is true, it is foolish to deny it. The only plus is production and development in Russia, which does not play a role for the average buyer.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Where do you get this info?
I'm talking about 4C, not about 8C.
Something all your statements smack of "patriotism."
In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power.
When did 4 cores and 800 MHz become “power” and “high performance”? I've seen reviewwhere this Elbrus showed Intel Atom D2500 level performance. Not the most powerful processor, if that. And these are test results in benchmarks, and not just a figure taken from the ceiling. Imagine how AutoCAD or another professional application will be launched on it, and what kind of slide show there will be. As for me, working people are not in vain using multiprocessor and multicore solutions in their workstations that operate at a frequency of at least 2+ GHz. 4 cores on a ridiculous 800 MHz and a flawed manufacturing process, in principle, will not be able to overtake them.
Comparison with the ancient i7, which is already 8 years old, is not entirely correct. Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K gives outalmost 240 gflops.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus"
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?
Quote: FarmerKarwer
In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand?
I can’t imagine an entrepreneur who will say: “I don’t want to deliver a powerful PC to my employees, but I want Elbrus.”
Quote: FarmerKarwer
worse than Intela in everything and much
That is true, it is foolish to deny it. The only plus is production and development in Russia, which does not play a role for the average buyer.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Where do you get this info?
I'm talking about 4C, not about 8C.
Something all your statements smack of "patriotism."
The Elbrus processor is being developed NOT FOR A WIDE PUBLIC, but FOR MILITARY NEEDS
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews. And I didn’t see anything about the “military needs” proofs.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
What kind of toys are there. Anyway, have you ever seen Elbrus in electronics stores?)
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Unfortunately, only this is our country ahead.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
P.S. The latest version of Elbrus is 8C, it is five times more productive than 4C.
Class, pull the fourth stump from Intel. In five years, it may reach the level of the first i3.
Someone here correctly noticed that for the defense you need quite powerful computers. This device is suitable, perhaps, for the employee of the military registration and enlistment office. Since it is for "military needs", should it be weaker than any smartphone not of the first freshness?
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.
The Elbrus processor is being developed NOT FOR A WIDE PUBLIC, but FOR MILITARY NEEDS
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews. And I didn’t see anything about the “military needs” proofs.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
What kind of toys are there. Anyway, have you ever seen Elbrus in electronics stores?)
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Unfortunately, only this is our country ahead.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
P.S. The latest version of Elbrus is 8C, it is five times more productive than 4C.
Class, pull the fourth stump from Intel. In five years, it may reach the level of the first i3.
Someone here correctly noticed that for the defense you need quite powerful computers. This device is suitable, perhaps, for the employee of the military registration and enlistment office. Since it is for "military needs", should it be weaker than any smartphone not of the first freshness?
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.
The Elbrus processor is being developed NOT FOR A WIDE PUBLIC, but FOR MILITARY NEEDS
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews. And I didn’t see anything about the “military needs” proofs.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
What kind of toys are there. Anyway, have you ever seen Elbrus in electronics stores?)
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Unfortunately, only this is our country ahead.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
P.S. The latest version of Elbrus is 8C, it is five times more productive than 4C.
Class, pull the fourth stump from Intel. In five years, it may reach the level of the first i3.
Someone here correctly noticed that for the defense you need quite powerful computers. This device is suitable, perhaps, for the employee of the military registration and enlistment office. Since it is for "military needs", should it be weaker than any smartphone not of the first freshness?
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.
The Elbrus processor is being developed NOT FOR A WIDE PUBLIC, but FOR MILITARY NEEDS
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews. And I didn’t see anything about the “military needs” proofs.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
What kind of toys are there. Anyway, have you ever seen Elbrus in electronics stores?)
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
Unfortunately, only this is our country ahead.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
P.S. The latest version of Elbrus is 8C, it is five times more productive than 4C.
Class, pull the fourth stump from Intel. In five years, it may reach the level of the first i3.
Someone here correctly noticed that for the defense you need quite powerful computers. This device is suitable, perhaps, for the employee of the military registration and enlistment office. Since it is for "military needs", should it be weaker than any smartphone not of the first freshness?
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.
The ability to award a reward for the head and rearrangement of cars in garages was disabled due to cheaters who used them to cheat money. Sellers most likely disappeared due to some similar vulnerability. This is the current position of rockstar - they do not fix bugs, but stupidly disable features.
Gentlemen, not offtopic. If you have constructive suggestions for improving the site - write to administrators. We find out personal relationships in PM.
Shotaro will be available at LegendaryMotorsports after completing the Deadline confrontation.
Snow appeared in the game, it will be on December 23 and 24, and it will also be for the new year. Another available car with tuning from Banny - Comet Retro.
The post has been edited by SuberSeb on 12/23/2016 at 12:26:48
Great news! The new garage will be a great addition to the office. And for a long time there were no cool cars. At the end of the year, perhaps the best update is coming out.
We discuss Kupyansk on the corresponding page or in PM. This mod has nothing to do with Kupyansk and its developers. Stop offtopic. The author of GTA: Tiki Islands is also concerned.
Mistake - "And those who demonstrate the best results will be awarded with special prizes - GTA $ 1,000,000, 30,000 and 20,000, respectively, for the first, second and third places." They will receive 100 000 GTA $. Knowing rockstar, they will never fork out for normal prizes for the race.
Excerpt from the official news: "This week's featured Premium Stunt Race is Trench II. Set to Muscle, ride the highs and lows of this Grand Senora Desert-based track all week and earn Triple RP just for giving it a whirl. Better yet, the top three podium finishers earn GTA $ 100,000, GTA $ 30,000 and GTA $ 20,000 respectively. Use the Quick Job App on your in-game phone or enter the yellow Premium Race blip at Legion Square and get racing. "
Stop offtopic! Divorced here hell knows what. Do not like the mod - put a minus, if necessary, comment and go further. Like - put a plus, if necessary - write a comment. No need to arrange skirmishes, proving to each other their innocence. This will not lead to anything, everyone will remain with their own. Also, one does not need to look for conspiracies of moderators, any "double standards" and blame the administration for completely far-fetched acts. Find out all your personal grievances in PM, not in the comments. Further off-topic messages will be punished. The authors of the mod are also affected.
A biker DLC would be a great addition. And customizing garages will come in handy too. Maybe the purchase of the sixth property will be allowed for this event. After the last update, there is not enough space in the garages, it is strange that the sixth slot was not added.
I would also like to see more customization of the bikes, not just the installation of technical improvements.
The post has been edited by SuberSeb on 07.24.2016 at 12:52:30
We finish offtopic on the topic of piracy. This does not apply to the topic of this news. If you don’t have money, it’s not a problem for users, site or anyone else. This is your problem and write about it everywhere no need... Further messages on this topic will be punished by a ban. Messages cleared.
We stop flooding. Further discussions about the age rating of the game will be punished by a ban, since they have nothing to do with this news. You should also refrain from discussing pirated versions and cracks.
Comrades, we are stopping offtopic. It has been said here 1000 times already that new rules have been introduced and no one is going to cancel them. You can endlessly be indignant, it will lead nowhere. Is it difficult to communicate culturally and politely? I think it’s not difficult. There are many ways here for such communication, but they simply do not want to, because now it is fashionable to offend someone, troll, "joke". Nobody forbids sarcasm or jokes, especially some spelling mistakes. There is no need to exaggerate and make monsters out of the administration who will ban and give out prey to the right and to the left. Various nonsense are prohibited. This is done so that users are comfortable on our site, so that in the comments they see messages in essence, and not flat jokes, obscenities, offtopic and expressions like "azaza zatralina". We create a good atmosphere for respectable and adequate users. This is not true. Several precedents correspond to each clause of the rules. Based on them, we have compiled these points. Someone correctly noticed that on many resources, especially in English, people calmly communicate without swearing and insults, rudeness, without vulgar jokes and the like. Wouldn't we be able to do something similar? Further messages will not in essence be punished.
The post has been edited by SuberSeb on 02/02/2015 at 18:31:42
Русские машины в GTA - это глупо, также как и занижение подвески. Школота думает, что это круто, но я вас разочарую - это не так. Kavkaz Style - за это я бы поставил отдельный минус, жаль можно только 1 оценку ставить.
Цитата: Volk 95
потому что у нее нет двойника
Да и хорошо, нечего такому уродству по несколько штук быть.
Моду однозначно минус, пора бы перестать пропускать такие моды в архив.
Сообщение отредактировал SuberSeb 03.11.2013 в 13:46:08
A sports car is not necessarily a two-door coupe. It could be a sedan This car looks like a four-door coupe. Himself has not yet watched a new car.
SuberSeb 01/24/2018, 07:15:47
Send me in a personal link to specific persons in the bath.
The 30 fps block is removed simply, on the Internet is full of instructions. When I last put the game, there was no block, but maybe it's because of my settings.
You talked about "military needs," and state. institutions and military needs are not the same thing.
I'm talking about performance.
But this is how to look.
About the prices. Something is not enough information, but I saw the figure of $ 8000 for a PC with Elbrus-4C. And another 199 thousand rubles. Even if we discard the low performance, 199 thousand for a PC with a percentage of the Intel atom level is too much.
These processors can compete only because they are manufactured and developed in Russia. This is the only virtue, and for some it is rather dubious.
Elbrus will be inferior to competitors in x86 and everyday tasks, this is a fact.
You're right. Those who believe that 800 MHz and 4 cores are power can no longer be convinced.
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 10:33:55
But this is how to look.
About the prices. Something is not enough information, but I saw the figure of $ 8000 for a PC with Elbrus-4C. And another 199 thousand rubles. Even if we discard the low performance, 199 thousand for a PC with a percentage of the Intel atom level is too much.
These processors can compete only because they are manufactured and developed in Russia. This is the only virtue, and for some it is rather dubious.
Elbrus will be inferior to competitors in x86 and everyday tasks, this is a fact.
You're right. Those who believe that 800 MHz and 4 cores are power can no longer be convinced.
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 10:33:55
But this is how to look.
About the prices. Something is not enough information, but I saw the figure of $ 8000 for a PC with Elbrus-4C. And another 199 thousand rubles. Even if we discard the low performance, 199 thousand for a PC with a percentage of the Intel atom level is too much.
These processors can compete only because they are manufactured and developed in Russia. This is the only virtue, and for some it is rather dubious.
Elbrus will be inferior to competitors in x86 and everyday tasks, this is a fact.
You're right. Those who believe that 800 MHz and 4 cores are power can no longer be convinced.
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 10:33:55
But this is how to look.
About the prices. Something is not enough information, but I saw the figure of $ 8000 for a PC with Elbrus-4C. And another 199 thousand rubles. Even if we discard the low performance, 199 thousand for a PC with a percentage of the Intel atom level is too much.
These processors can compete only because they are manufactured and developed in Russia. This is the only virtue, and for some it is rather dubious.
Elbrus will be inferior to competitors in x86 and everyday tasks, this is a fact.
You're right. Those who believe that 800 MHz and 4 cores are power can no longer be convinced.
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 10:33:55
But do not forget that the 7700K showed 240 Gflops in x86 and these are real numbers. 7700K is much more powerful than the processor of the 360th console, anyone who knows at least a little hardware can say this.
So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.
Again, I say, there are no 8C tests, but there are 4C tests and they show such a performance. And the talk in this news is about 4C. And 250 gflops in 8C is only on paper, the actual performance will differ, so for all manufacturers - both Intel and AMD. It is better to keep silent about the performance of Elbrus in x86, as the number of ticks will decrease and the flops will also decrease.
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.
8C tests in real-world tasks are either not available or not enough, and it makes no sense to compare the number by flops.
Well, it’s worth mentioning the price, as it’s just the wildest.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 10:16:41
But do not forget that the 7700K showed 240 Gflops in x86 and these are real numbers. 7700K is much more powerful than the processor of the 360th console, anyone who knows at least a little hardware can say this.
So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.
Again, I say, there are no 8C tests, but there are 4C tests and they show such a performance. And the talk in this news is about 4C. And 250 gflops in 8C is only on paper, the actual performance will differ, so for all manufacturers - both Intel and AMD. It is better to keep silent about the performance of Elbrus in x86, as the number of ticks will decrease and the flops will also decrease.
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.
8C tests in real-world tasks are either not available or not enough, and it makes no sense to compare the number by flops.
Well, it’s worth mentioning the price, as it’s just the wildest.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 10:16:41
But do not forget that the 7700K showed 240 Gflops in x86 and these are real numbers. 7700K is much more powerful than the processor of the 360th console, anyone who knows at least a little hardware can say this.
So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.
Again, I say, there are no 8C tests, but there are 4C tests and they show such a performance. And the talk in this news is about 4C. And 250 gflops in 8C is only on paper, the actual performance will differ, so for all manufacturers - both Intel and AMD. It is better to keep silent about the performance of Elbrus in x86, as the number of ticks will decrease and the flops will also decrease.
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.
8C tests in real-world tasks are either not available or not enough, and it makes no sense to compare the number by flops.
Well, it’s worth mentioning the price, as it’s just the wildest.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 10:16:41
But do not forget that the 7700K showed 240 Gflops in x86 and these are real numbers. 7700K is much more powerful than the processor of the 360th console, anyone who knows at least a little hardware can say this.
So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.
Again, I say, there are no 8C tests, but there are 4C tests and they show such a performance. And the talk in this news is about 4C. And 250 gflops in 8C is only on paper, the actual performance will differ, so for all manufacturers - both Intel and AMD. It is better to keep silent about the performance of Elbrus in x86, as the number of ticks will decrease and the flops will also decrease.
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.
8C tests in real-world tasks are either not available or not enough, and it makes no sense to compare the number by flops.
Well, it’s worth mentioning the price, as it’s just the wildest.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 10:16:41
For comparison. "The new domestic processor shows the console performance of 2005," would be a great headline.
Until some results of testing the new processor and comparisons with competitors appear - it makes no sense to talk about it, we need real tests, not just numbers. Xbox 360 issues 260 Gflops. Video card Titan Z 8 teraflops. All predecessors were at the level of ancient procs, this one, most likely, will not make a strong leap forward.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 09:35:27
When did 4 cores and 800 MHz become “power” and “high performance”? I've seen
Comparison with the ancient i7, which is already 8 years old, is not entirely correct. Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?
I can’t imagine an entrepreneur who will say: “I don’t want to deliver a powerful PC to my employees, but I want Elbrus.”
That is true, it is foolish to deny it. The only plus is production and development in Russia, which does not play a role for the average buyer.
I'm talking about 4C, not about 8C.
Something all your statements smack of "patriotism."
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 09:28:27
When did 4 cores and 800 MHz become “power” and “high performance”? I've seen
Comparison with the ancient i7, which is already 8 years old, is not entirely correct. Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?
I can’t imagine an entrepreneur who will say: “I don’t want to deliver a powerful PC to my employees, but I want Elbrus.”
That is true, it is foolish to deny it. The only plus is production and development in Russia, which does not play a role for the average buyer.
I'm talking about 4C, not about 8C.
Something all your statements smack of "patriotism."
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 09:28:27
When did 4 cores and 800 MHz become “power” and “high performance”? I've seen
Comparison with the ancient i7, which is already 8 years old, is not entirely correct. Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?
I can’t imagine an entrepreneur who will say: “I don’t want to deliver a powerful PC to my employees, but I want Elbrus.”
That is true, it is foolish to deny it. The only plus is production and development in Russia, which does not play a role for the average buyer.
I'm talking about 4C, not about 8C.
Something all your statements smack of "patriotism."
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 09:28:27
When did 4 cores and 800 MHz become “power” and “high performance”? I've seen
Comparison with the ancient i7, which is already 8 years old, is not entirely correct. Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?
I can’t imagine an entrepreneur who will say: “I don’t want to deliver a powerful PC to my employees, but I want Elbrus.”
That is true, it is foolish to deny it. The only plus is production and development in Russia, which does not play a role for the average buyer.
I'm talking about 4C, not about 8C.
Something all your statements smack of "patriotism."
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 09:28:27
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews. And I didn’t see anything about the “military needs” proofs.
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order
Unfortunately, only this is our country ahead.
Class, pull the fourth stump from Intel. In five years, it may reach the level of the first i3.
Someone here correctly noticed that for the defense you need quite powerful computers. This device is suitable, perhaps, for the employee of the military registration and enlistment office. Since it is for "military needs", should it be weaker than any smartphone not of the first freshness?
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 08:24:47
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews. And I didn’t see anything about the “military needs” proofs.
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order
Unfortunately, only this is our country ahead.
Class, pull the fourth stump from Intel. In five years, it may reach the level of the first i3.
Someone here correctly noticed that for the defense you need quite powerful computers. This device is suitable, perhaps, for the employee of the military registration and enlistment office. Since it is for "military needs", should it be weaker than any smartphone not of the first freshness?
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 08:24:47
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews. And I didn’t see anything about the “military needs” proofs.
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order
Unfortunately, only this is our country ahead.
Class, pull the fourth stump from Intel. In five years, it may reach the level of the first i3.
Someone here correctly noticed that for the defense you need quite powerful computers. This device is suitable, perhaps, for the employee of the military registration and enlistment office. Since it is for "military needs", should it be weaker than any smartphone not of the first freshness?
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 08:24:47
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews. And I didn’t see anything about the “military needs” proofs.
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order
Unfortunately, only this is our country ahead.
Class, pull the fourth stump from Intel. In five years, it may reach the level of the first i3.
Someone here correctly noticed that for the defense you need quite powerful computers. This device is suitable, perhaps, for the employee of the military registration and enlistment office. Since it is for "military needs", should it be weaker than any smartphone not of the first freshness?
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.
SuberSeb 07/27/2017, 08:24:47
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Shotaro will be available at LegendaryMotorsports after completing the Deadline confrontation.
Snow appeared in the game, it will be on December 23 and 24, and it will also be for the new year. Another available car with tuning from Banny - Comet Retro.
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Discounts are not so stupid, you can save money at the office if someone is missing.
I would also like to see more customization of the bikes, not just the installation of technical improvements.
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Is it difficult to communicate culturally and politely? I think it’s not difficult. There are many ways here for such communication, but they simply do not want to, because now it is fashionable to offend someone, troll, "joke". Nobody forbids sarcasm or jokes, especially some spelling mistakes. There is no need to exaggerate and make monsters out of the administration who will ban and give out prey to the right and to the left. Various nonsense are prohibited. This is done so that users are comfortable on our site, so that in the comments they see messages in essence, and not flat jokes, obscenities, offtopic and expressions like "azaza zatralina". We create a good atmosphere for respectable and adequate users.
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Someone correctly noticed that on many resources, especially in English, people calmly communicate without swearing and insults, rudeness, without vulgar jokes and the like. Wouldn't we be able to do something similar?
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The post has been edited by SuberSeb on 02/02/2015 at 18:31:42
Может все-таки Windows Phone? Mobile уж лет 5 как не поддерживается.
Сообщение отредактировал SuberSeb 26.11.2013 в 21:21:53
Сообщение отредактировал SuberSeb 02.03.2014 в 13:28:50
Kavkaz Style - за это я бы поставил отдельный минус, жаль можно только 1 оценку ставить.
Да и хорошо, нечего такому уродству по несколько штук быть.
Моду однозначно минус, пора бы перестать пропускать такие моды в архив.
Сообщение отредактировал SuberSeb 03.11.2013 в 13:46:08