English

Last comments

6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
You talked about "military needs," and state. institutions and military needs are not the same thing.

Okay, I said a little. The processor is still in demand in important government institutions.

Quote: SuberSeb
I'm talking about performance.

I already explained everything in the previous comment.
Quote: FarmerKarwer
it requires processors with an increased level of security and protection against computer viruses, while possessing such power that allows you to perform the necessary tasks.

They (these institutions and the military) still have enough of this power, but this does not mean that our techies will rest on their laurels.
+2
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
That's it. State institutions - yes, they will. Private companies and entrepreneurs are unlikely, because for 200 pieces you can buy a lot of better things. Regular users will buy only in a state of insanity.


So where did I start my first comment?)

Quote: SuberSeb
And how will he show himself to the state. structures is a completely different issue.


Very good, he also enjoys demand there. Let me remind you once again that processors are required that have an increased level of security and protection against computer viruses, while possessing such power that allows you to perform the necessary tasks. At the same time, computers and servers offered by the MCST company are able to function in adverse environmental conditions.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 10:40:44
+1
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb

So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.

Similarly, about the new domestic processor:)

Quote: SuberSeb
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.

Then yes, you're right about that for common tasks it is low-power compared to the same Intel. The developers correctly stated that this percent can be used in the office. Maybe so! True minus in its price, therefore ordinary entrepreneurs hardly buy such a processor. But for various private security agencies, as well as various government agencies where resistance to hacker attacks and information security are required, Elbrus is an excellent solution.

Alright, it's time to end our argument, anyway, none of us will convince each other of our innocence ...

0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb

So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.

Similarly, about the new domestic processor:)

Quote: SuberSeb
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.

Then yes, you're right about that for common tasks it is low-power compared to the same Intel. The developers correctly stated that this percent can be used in the office. Maybe so! True minus in its price, therefore ordinary entrepreneurs hardly buy such a processor. But for various private security agencies, as well as various government agencies where resistance to hacker attacks and information security are required, Elbrus is an excellent solution.

Alright, it's time to end our argument, anyway, none of us will convince each other of our innocence ...

0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb

So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.

Similarly, about the new domestic processor:)

Quote: SuberSeb
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.

Then yes, you're right about that for common tasks it is low-power compared to the same Intel. The developers correctly stated that this percent can be used in the office. Maybe so! True minus in its price, therefore ordinary entrepreneurs hardly buy such a processor. But for various private security agencies, as well as various government agencies where resistance to hacker attacks and information security are required, Elbrus is an excellent solution.

Alright, it's time to end our argument, anyway, none of us will convince each other of our innocence ...

0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb

So such a title would not be good, since it is far from reality.

Similarly, about the new domestic processor:)

Quote: SuberSeb
I consider this processor in the context of applications in ordinary tasks, and not in the defense industry and the state. institutions, because developers say that it can be used in the office.

Then yes, you're right about that for common tasks it is low-power compared to the same Intel. The developers correctly stated that this percent can be used in the office. Maybe so! True minus in its price, therefore ordinary entrepreneurs hardly buy such a processor. But for various private security agencies, as well as various government agencies where resistance to hacker attacks and information security are required, Elbrus is an excellent solution.

Alright, it's time to end our argument, anyway, none of us will convince each other of our innocence ...

0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
"The new domestic processor shows the console performance of 2005," would be a great headline.

"The modern Intel Core i7-7700K processor is inferior in 2005 console performance" would be a great title too

FarmerKarwer 07/28/2017, 10:04:32
+1
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
Xbox 360 issues 260 Gflops. Video card Titan Z 8 teraflops.

Lol, these are not processors at all.

Quote: SuberSeb
All predecessors were at the level of ancient procs, this one, most likely, will not make a strong leap forward.

Well, let's see, time will tell.
+1
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
Need to compare with new ones. My i7-7700K produces almost 240 Gflops.

Then come on and compare with new ones. Productivity (peak) of "Elbrus 8C" - 250 Gflops.

Quote: SuberSeb
And who are these "all"? Do you have a financial report or some data?

Where did you see that I wrote the word "everything"?

And I already wrote about everything in the comments earlier, the point is now to dispute something.
0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews.

In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power. Why does he not pull the game, despite its high performance (by the way, the 4C processor's efficiency is comparable to the Intel “i” series processors. With less power consumption (45 W) its performance is up to 50 GFlops. For comparison: the older Intel Core i7- Does the 975 Extreme Edition have a performance of 53 Gflops at much higher frequencies and power consumption)?
The answer to the question is simple: our processor is simply “sharpened” for another!
Quote: SuberSeb
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.

It is precisely that simple users do not need it in FIG. And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus" if it is, as you say, "worse than Intela in everything"? In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand? Why not Intel? The answer to all questions is its purpose. And we already spoke about the goal.

Quote: SuberSeb
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.

Where do you get this info? If you are talking about the state of our line of processors for 2017, then here are the characteristics of the new Elbrus 8C:

Processor - 8 cores without hypertreading.
The crystal area is 350 mm2.
The cache of the second level for each core is 512 Sq.
Layer 3 cache is shared - 16 MB.
Execution per cycle - 30 operations.

Performance (peak) - 250 Gflops.
Power - 60-90 watts.
Licensed independence from Intel, while providing support for major operating systems with x86 / x86-64 architecture.


You just got used to the fact that the power of the processor is measured by the way it pulls modern games. And this, by the way, is correct, but for processors that are aimed at a wide range of consumers. Here, such a scheme will not work, a slightly different scope.
So it goes.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 09:01:31
0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews.

In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power. Why does he not pull the game, despite its high performance (by the way, the 4C processor's efficiency is comparable to the Intel “i” series processors. With less power consumption (45 W) its performance is up to 50 GFlops. For comparison: the older Intel Core i7- Does the 975 Extreme Edition have a performance of 53 Gflops at much higher frequencies and power consumption)?
The answer to the question is simple: our processor is simply “sharpened” for another!
Quote: SuberSeb
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.

It is precisely that simple users do not need it in FIG. And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus" if it is, as you say, "worse than Intela in everything"? In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand? Why not Intel? The answer to all questions is its purpose. And we already spoke about the goal.

Quote: SuberSeb
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.

Where do you get this info? If you are talking about the state of our line of processors for 2017, then here are the characteristics of the new Elbrus 8C:

Processor - 8 cores without hypertreading.
The crystal area is 350 mm2.
The cache of the second level for each core is 512 Sq.
Layer 3 cache is shared - 16 MB.
Execution per cycle - 30 operations.

Performance (peak) - 250 Gflops.
Power - 60-90 watts.
Licensed independence from Intel, while providing support for major operating systems with x86 / x86-64 architecture.


You just got used to the fact that the power of the processor is measured by the way it pulls modern games. And this, by the way, is correct, but for processors that are aimed at a wide range of consumers. Here, such a scheme will not work, a slightly different scope.
So it goes.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 09:01:31
0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews.

In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power. Why does he not pull the game, despite its high performance (by the way, the 4C processor's efficiency is comparable to the Intel “i” series processors. With less power consumption (45 W) its performance is up to 50 GFlops. For comparison: the older Intel Core i7- Does the 975 Extreme Edition have a performance of 53 Gflops at much higher frequencies and power consumption)?
The answer to the question is simple: our processor is simply “sharpened” for another!
Quote: SuberSeb
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.

It is precisely that simple users do not need it in FIG. And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus" if it is, as you say, "worse than Intela in everything"? In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand? Why not Intel? The answer to all questions is its purpose. And we already spoke about the goal.

Quote: SuberSeb
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.

Where do you get this info? If you are talking about the state of our line of processors for 2017, then here are the characteristics of the new Elbrus 8C:

Processor - 8 cores without hypertreading.
The crystal area is 350 mm2.
The cache of the second level for each core is 512 Sq.
Layer 3 cache is shared - 16 MB.
Execution per cycle - 30 operations.

Performance (peak) - 250 Gflops.
Power - 60-90 watts.
Licensed independence from Intel, while providing support for major operating systems with x86 / x86-64 architecture.


You just got used to the fact that the power of the processor is measured by the way it pulls modern games. And this, by the way, is correct, but for processors that are aimed at a wide range of consumers. Here, such a scheme will not work, a slightly different scope.
So it goes.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 09:01:31
0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews.

In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power. Why does he not pull the game, despite its high performance (by the way, the 4C processor's efficiency is comparable to the Intel “i” series processors. With less power consumption (45 W) its performance is up to 50 GFlops. For comparison: the older Intel Core i7- Does the 975 Extreme Edition have a performance of 53 Gflops at much higher frequencies and power consumption)?
The answer to the question is simple: our processor is simply “sharpened” for another!
Quote: SuberSeb
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.

It is precisely that simple users do not need it in FIG. And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus" if it is, as you say, "worse than Intela in everything"? In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand? Why not Intel? The answer to all questions is its purpose. And we already spoke about the goal.

Quote: SuberSeb
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.

Where do you get this info? If you are talking about the state of our line of processors for 2017, then here are the characteristics of the new Elbrus 8C:

Processor - 8 cores without hypertreading.
The crystal area is 350 mm2.
The cache of the second level for each core is 512 Sq.
Layer 3 cache is shared - 16 MB.
Execution per cycle - 30 operations.

Performance (peak) - 250 Gflops.
Power - 60-90 watts.
Licensed independence from Intel, while providing support for major operating systems with x86 / x86-64 architecture.


You just got used to the fact that the power of the processor is measured by the way it pulls modern games. And this, by the way, is correct, but for processors that are aimed at a wide range of consumers. Here, such a scheme will not work, a slightly different scope.
So it goes.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 09:01:31
0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews.

In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power. Why does he not pull the game, despite its high performance (by the way, the 4C processor's efficiency is comparable to the Intel “i” series processors. With less power consumption (45 W) its performance is up to 50 GFlops. For comparison: the older Intel Core i7- Does the 975 Extreme Edition have a performance of 53 Gflops at much higher frequencies and power consumption)?
The answer to the question is simple: our processor is simply “sharpened” for another!
Quote: SuberSeb
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.

It is precisely that simple users do not need it in FIG. And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus" if it is, as you say, "worse than Intela in everything"? In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand? Why not Intel? The answer to all questions is its purpose. And we already spoke about the goal.

Quote: SuberSeb
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.

Where do you get this info? If you are talking about the state of our line of processors for 2017, then here are the characteristics of the new Elbrus 8C:

Processor - 8 cores without hypertreading.
The crystal area is 350 mm2.
The cache of the second level for each core is 512 Sq.
Layer 3 cache is shared - 16 MB.
Execution per cycle - 30 operations.

Performance (peak) - 250 Gflops.
Power - 60-90 watts.
Licensed independence from Intel, while providing support for major operating systems with x86 / x86-64 architecture.


You just got used to the fact that the power of the processor is measured by the way it pulls modern games. And this, by the way, is correct, but for processors that are aimed at a wide range of consumers. Here, such a scheme will not work, a slightly different scope.
So it goes.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 09:01:31
0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Quote: SuberSeb
For the military or not, the developers say that it can also be used for office purposes. The scope is as follows: information security, operating temperature range, product life cycle duration. That is, the scope of military needs is not limited. Since he is for military purposes, then why can any mortal buy it? Truly military-oriented products are not handed out for reviews.

In my opinion, I clearly wrote that the main feature of Elbrus is its computing power. Why does he not pull the game, despite its high performance (by the way, the 4C processor's efficiency is comparable to the Intel “i” series processors. With less power consumption (45 W) its performance is up to 50 GFlops. For comparison: the older Intel Core i7- Does the 975 Extreme Edition have a performance of 53 Gflops at much higher frequencies and power consumption)?
The answer to the question is simple: our processor is simply “sharpened” for another!
Quote: SuberSeb
Not in stores, because he doesn’t need anyone. And you can order here. And there is a description where not a word is said about the "military". For office needs.

It is precisely that simple users do not need it in FIG. And why then ours still buy this "Elbrus" if it is, as you say, "worse than Intela in everything"? In which office establishments is Elbrus most in demand? Why not Intel? The answer to all questions is its purpose. And we already spoke about the goal.

Quote: SuberSeb
800 MHz in 2017 is definitely something to be proud of.

Where do you get this info? If you are talking about the state of our line of processors for 2017, then here are the characteristics of the new Elbrus 8C:

Processor - 8 cores without hypertreading.
The crystal area is 350 mm2.
The cache of the second level for each core is 512 Sq.
Layer 3 cache is shared - 16 MB.
Execution per cycle - 30 operations.

Performance (peak) - 250 Gflops.
Power - 60-90 watts.
Licensed independence from Intel, while providing support for major operating systems with x86 / x86-64 architecture.


You just got used to the fact that the power of the processor is measured by the way it pulls modern games. And this, by the way, is correct, but for processors that are aimed at a wide range of consumers. Here, such a scheme will not work, a slightly different scope.
So it goes.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 09:01:31
0
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Lol, before you write about our engineers with a dumb sarcasm, you should know something.
The Elbrus processor is developed NOT FOR A WIDE PUBLIC, but FOR MILITARY NEEDS. Undoubtedly, Intel is significantly superior to the domestic processor in terms of launching games and other multimedia, but our creation is in many ways superior to its foreign counterparts in the “defense industry”. It must be understood that this product is being developed for the sole purpose of providing self-sufficient microelectronics and computer technology independent of deliveries and licensing. Computers on the Elbrus processor with an increased level of security and protection against computer viruses are in demand in the military industry and in services. That is, its main feature is computing power.
What kind of toys are there. Anyway, have you ever seen Elbrus in electronics stores?)


P.S. The latest version of Elbrus is 8C, it is five times more productive than 4C.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 18:24:00
+20
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Lol, before you write about our engineers with a dumb sarcasm, you should know something.
The Elbrus processor is developed NOT FOR A WIDE PUBLIC, but FOR MILITARY NEEDS. Undoubtedly, Intel is significantly superior to the domestic processor in terms of launching games and other multimedia, but our creation is in many ways superior to its foreign counterparts in the “defense industry”. It must be understood that this product is being developed for the sole purpose of providing self-sufficient microelectronics and computer technology independent of deliveries and licensing. Computers on the Elbrus processor with an increased level of security and protection against computer viruses are in demand in the military industry and in services. That is, its main feature is computing power.
What kind of toys are there. Anyway, have you ever seen Elbrus in electronics stores?)


P.S. The latest version of Elbrus is 8C, it is five times more productive than 4C.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 18:24:00
+20
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Lol, before you write about our engineers with a dumb sarcasm, you should know something.
The Elbrus processor is developed NOT FOR A WIDE PUBLIC, but FOR MILITARY NEEDS. Undoubtedly, Intel is significantly superior to the domestic processor in terms of launching games and other multimedia, but our creation is in many ways superior to its foreign counterparts in the “defense industry”. It must be understood that this product is being developed for the sole purpose of providing self-sufficient microelectronics and computer technology independent of deliveries and licensing. Computers on the Elbrus processor with an increased level of security and protection against computer viruses are in demand in the military industry and in services. That is, its main feature is computing power.
What kind of toys are there. Anyway, have you ever seen Elbrus in electronics stores?)


P.S. The latest version of Elbrus is 8C, it is five times more productive than 4C.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 18:24:00
+20
Link to the comment
6 years ago
Lol, before you write about our engineers with a dumb sarcasm, you should know something.
The Elbrus processor is developed NOT FOR A WIDE PUBLIC, but FOR MILITARY NEEDS. Undoubtedly, Intel is significantly superior to the domestic processor in terms of launching games and other multimedia, but our creation is in many ways superior to its foreign counterparts in the “defense industry”. It must be understood that this product is being developed for the sole purpose of providing self-sufficient microelectronics and computer technology independent of deliveries and licensing. Computers on the Elbrus processor with an increased level of security and protection against computer viruses are in demand in the military industry and in services. That is, its main feature is computing power.
What kind of toys are there. Anyway, have you ever seen Elbrus in electronics stores?)


P.S. The latest version of Elbrus is 8C, it is five times more productive than 4C.

FarmerKarwer 07/27/2017, 18:24:00
+20
Link to the comment
6 years ago
The plot is both dumb and funny. I like to play cleo missions, because this is a rarity, so I’ll be happy to put a plus
0
Link to the comment